NOVEMBER 05, 2010
What will the next SB 6 look like?
Go here to see a starting point. This is the draft of a teacher quality bill being circulated by Patricia Levesque, executive director of Jeb Bush's Foundation for Florida's Future.
On a related note, when the Gradebook asked the Rick Scott campaign for the governor-elect's thoughts on a future SB 6, spokesman Brian Burgess referred us to the education plan on the campaign site. Among other things, it says, "Rick supports eliminating teacher tenure for new teachers."
"His views have not changed," Burgess wrote in an email, "so you may infer what you wish with respect to a future version of SB 6."
Posted by ronmatus at 4:56:01 pm on November 05, 2010 in | Permalink | Comments (22) |
If you are going to keep the data on every student why not use the learning gains avg. for just that student? Why use learning gains of like-kind students?
Also since this bill will make it a law will the increase be mandatory? So the district can not say we do not have the funds.
They also need to to use data averages for students that have a change in home life. Divorce, parent arrest, Being placed in foster care, death of a family member, and any other thing that could change a students learning gains. Several of thses things are already proven to show learning gains drop.
How about this: Before passing a bill that pays teachers according to the test scores of their students, look at the research that concludes that it does not work? Giving the parents a bonus for good student performance might be the way to go. If I still had a kid in the school system (which I don't...she's all grown up and at an Ivy League school after attending the terrible Florida public schools ;-) believe me, I'd be on her to do well on tests so we could get the cash!
It's nothing more than pseudo-intellectual deconstruction of public education. Parents (and grandparents) better wake up fast. Terrible public education made this country the greatest on Earth. By assasinating it we hasten the downfall of our nation. SB6 is total horse manure.
When SB6 passes, and the revolving door of new teachers starts spinning, how will the state explain the loss of expertise in the classrooms? I'm sure they have considered that question. Answer: They don't care!
Ok this is a lot better than sb6 now that I made it all the way thru.
New Teachers can be offered 3 year contracts after the probation period, its not tenure just a little more stability.
50% based on learning gains using test, but District school boards shall have discretion to base up to 15 percent of this amount upon locally determined objective assessments.
And the big one
The rules must consider how many days a student was enrolled and attending classes to be counted in the evaluation formula.
Buc, I get some of it, but what do you mean? This is ok?
I am not saying it is perfect and we all know something is going to happen. This new version is much better than the old one. Just because its better does not mean that I think its OK to use any version.
The old version had no consideration for a student that is absent all the time. The old version left every new employee on 1 year contracts. The old version did not allow the district to use objective assessments. The old version did not use learning gains of like-kind students.
I have already emailed the state about 2 major issues I have. I think it should use a 3 year average of the actual student and also take into consideration a significant change in family life.
This is going to happen and I would suggest anyone that has ideas they think will improve the bill to send emails to Eric Smith.
Commissioner@fldoe.org
Buc, How in hell are they going to be able to assemble all that data? You are right that it's better, and I wasn't assuming that you thought any version OK either; just posing a hard question. I guess three years is better than NONE, but we should fight to keep the present tenure, even by an illegal walkout. That, if conducted with cohesion and coherence, would bring the profiteers to their knees.
Patti Levesque is the anti-christ of public education.
schooled in private religious schools and a proud graduate of Bob Jones University in SC, Patti's an "expert" on public schools.
Of course she's never taught in a public school, never been an administrator or district bureaucrat, in fact she's never set foot in a public school but she's a big expert on public schools?
Patti has as much experience as Michelle Rhee. Just a couple of sexually frustrated prudes who rather than be hot mommas with children would rather spend their precious time denigrating teachers.
What's the relationship between the Jebster and Patti? We know Jeb isn't exactly "father knows best" especially amongst his dysfunctional brood.
Patti has a kid, shouldn't she be home like a good R conservative taking care of her child then wasting her time trying to smear teachers?
roll on rolltide!
madsonpaine
If you have tenure now it can not be taken away. The 3 year contracts will be offered to new teachers only. That is wht the bill has an option they are trying to fool teachers with.
b. A district school board is authorized to adopt two salary schedules one schedule for instructional personnel who hold professional service or continuing contracts pursuant to s. 1012.34 and one schedule with higher pay for instructional personnel who choose to give up professional service or continuing contracts for annual or professional performance contracts.
They say they can set up 2 contracts and a teacher can choose to give up tenure. Now the requirement for higher pay in the ones that do give it up might be a violation collective bargain laws.
As for the data it is not that hard. The district and teachers can pull the data right now from their cumulative folder. It would not be that hard for the 3 year average to be added.
Wouldn't it be simpler to let any bum off the street, with a degree in anything, teach for 3 years, then spend the next 27 years evaluating what they did in those 3 years. After that, if there is a principal position available the Teacher can choose a retirement of 25% or the principal position.
How about evaluating parents before they receive any public assistance.
I'm sure I can get somebody to represent me in a lawsuit against all the crappy parents who don't give a damn about their kid's education. You know the ones that let their kid miss half the school year, have no clue when report cards go home, never return phone calls, etc
Watch, people and learn. Watch how many "new" teachers are made from the ones 'canned' earlier. They'll be lured back with a 'carrot-for-a-job'. Patterns,people,be observant and look for the patterns. As much as people think they change, they stay the same.
Learn the patterns people and discern. This SB6, it is a disguise of another thing,look for the key earmarks. They belong to a story of long ago. Be observant,people,observant. Look for the patterns. You can figure this out simply. History is repeating itself. Look for the patterns.They are there,clear for all 'who have eyes to see' to see. Look closely. It's all there. Don't be confused. It's all there, it's been done before. And now it's being repeated. You have the strength & knowledge to handle this. Know it for what it is. Evil is evil, it will not be changed simply because another group calls it something else. Don't be fooled. Know it for what it is and you will know what tools will work against it. Good luck colleagues.
lillapoyka
This version does have the absent child covered.
This is from the bill "The rules must consider how many days a student was enrolled and attending classes to be counted in the evaluation formula."
Send your other issues and a plan to figure that in to the state. Going to be hard to do it might be some kind of % added that info could also be part of the Admin review or distirct 15% locally determined objective assessments. Maybe could be parent envolvement assessment. Thos in the schools that parnents are 100% active get 0 points those below 100% active get 100 points. LOL Guess its 100 oints for every teacher in Pasco
Buc, you may some good points, however, the bill clearly states the gains will be made by comparing like students, with no exclusions made for gender, ethnicity, or SOCIO ECONOMIC status. So...they will compare all 7th grades enrolled in a math class with no regards to whether they have food at home or not? Hmm..guess I'll pack my classroom and head on up to the burbs.
I did read this part "based upon grade, subject, and student performance level."
The problem with the old bill it did not break it down this far. This will allow for EBD, Autistic and other issues. I still do not think it goes far enough.
That's my point about using the childs own gains over a 3 year period. If you teach you know you can look in that ●●● folder and see the results from past years. So why not use that students gains from 3 years and compare it to the year being tested. You will have to rate the 1-3 teachers based on the childs learning gain average after the 4th year.
"....higher pay for personnel who give up professional service contracts..." While this is a violation of collective bargaining agreements, school boards can give higher pay by $1/year to personnel who are dumb enough to give PSCs. Problem solved.
How complacent teachers can be. In one blog one reds STRIKE, STRIKE, STRIKE, while in another one reads, life is good.
It is not a matter of riding the complacent wave. The fact is that public education is being dismantled by the same people that almost destroyed the nation and the state. Unfortunately, there is no timely reaction by the ones that will suffer the most, parents and teachers.
Ire can blind senses, but is no excuse for stupidity. Still, recent results only confirm that humans are the only animals that step on their own crap TWICE.
What is Scott going to do different than Jebbie job wise? So far he promised to go against Tallahassee's politicians, and has everyone noticed that ALL his consultants are career politicians? Explain please. Next you will see desperate people taking any available job offered by NG low-wage companies (lured in by Scott) just to expect those jobs disappear to another low-income country like Vietnam (India and China are becoming more expensive)